Can Perfectionism Lead To Depression w/Dr. Margaret Robinson Rutherford

Dr. Rutherford will be discussing her study on “Perfectly Hidden Depression” and its impact on creatives when it comes to perfectionism, imposter syndrome, mindset, and motivation.

Dr. Margaret Rutherford has been a psychologist in private practice for over twenty-five years. She began writing online in 2012, and was just narcissistic enough to believe that she might have something fresh or funny to say about what she’d learned.

Since that time, she’s launched three different versions of this website. She began a podcast called SelfWork with Dr. Margaret Rutherford. She’s created monthly FaceBook Lives for The Mighty. And now she’s excited to announce that her book, entitled Perfectly Hidden Depression: How to Break Free from the Perfectionism that Masks Your Depression, was launched in November of 2019.

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Perfectly Hidden Depression

00:00 – Start
05:00 – How Margaret copes with tackling everyone’s problems
12:00 – Natalie’s story – near suicide
19:00 – Ten characteristics of Perfectly hidden depression*
22:30 – Procrastination is imperfect perfectionism (Accept imperfections)*
26:00 – Demonstrate a heightened sense of responsibility
30:00 – If you don’t feel it, you live it
33:00 – Detach from painful emotion by staying in your head and actively shutting them off
37:00 – Compartmentalization of emotions
41:00 – Are there any ways we could inspire a creative team and the management to have more empathy besides modeling it by ourselves?
45:00 – Working somewhere where you’d want others to change
46:00 – Worry and need yourself to control yourself and environment
52:20 – What perfectionism does to you**
58:00 – Focus on the well being of others but doesn’t allow anyone in
59:00 – they don’t know self compassion
1:04:00 – What depression is
1:07:00 – What do I need to remind myself about healing myself
1:16:00 – I’m ok with not being in control, I’m ok with not having to appear perfect, but there are people who won’t forgive you being so at work…
1:20:00 – Chris’ confession – struggling with being someone’s validation and sharing that with his spouse, but not setting the example for his kids**
1:30:00 – What to do if you can’t afford therapy
1:34:00 – What Dr. Rutherford would say to someone with perfectionism*** (elle too)

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